Discussion:
Status Accessibility Week 44
chrys
2018-10-31 22:52:16 UTC
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Howdy List,


Yes :) i did not give up yet and do not give up in near future. So don't
worry here :)!!!111
I made myself a task to inform you periodical to the state of our a11y
efforts. (maybe once per week or so)

1. I have an KDE developer account know!! YAY :). But i promise to not
do anything with it until my mentor federik allow me to do so. I want to
do the a11y development for a longer time and wont stop tomorrow doing
that (for personal reasons). I swear :)!!!!111
2. I polished some stuff on my patch to fix the tab-bar of "dash"
starting menu to make the fix more logical (thanks to federik for any
suggestions)
3. I learned: most of the issues are not mostly related to missing a11y
labels like it was for the desktop(this is easy to patch), but the focus
and keyboard navigation needs most of work.
4. we need some general implementation guidelines for keyboard
navigation and focus handling for plasma (KDE?) at all. like noted here:
https://phabricator.kde.org/T9878#165110
we need some public discussion here. not sure where is the right place.
5. we have some ongoing discussion about the most important part; the
task switcher. Thanks to all here!
6. i also did not idle: i have the first, "one and only" inital
accessible version of kickoff (the default start menu) on my computer!!
it is still not free on bugs, and federik would kill me ;) if i would
send this as final solution, but it works!
BUT it also means that i figured what to do. i will fix the bugs, clean
the patch (code) up and send it in.

Priority: is still the task switcher (as most important task) and the
start menus.

HELP WANTED:
1. i need some native english speaker :) to support me with the wiki
2. i don't own an blog (yea i don't  lol). is there someone out there
what want to blog for me to spread the information to the planet.kde.org
and the world? a11y needs more attention, for our KDE reasons... yea...
but overall YES!

so let me know if you want to help out here! plz :) don't let me hang on
alone! i bet on you!

@federik about this:
https://phabricator.kde.org/T9878#165110
yea would be definitive good. mumble? IRC? what native speaker are you
:)? when do you have time to give a talk to me? I can not wait to meet
you. special thanks from my side for your help!
from my side: i m from Germany, so i speak german best. you can find me
on (IRC) irc.linux-a11y.org (mostly 24/7). I have 4 days off now. so i
will be mostly flexible here (not on Friday).

Thanks!

cheers chrys
Mario Fux
2018-10-31 23:16:14 UTC
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Post by chrys
Howdy List,
Morning chrys

Thanks a lot for this email and your work. See some answers inline below.
Post by chrys
Yes i did not give up yet and do not give up in near future. So don't
worry here :)!!!111
I made myself a task to inform you periodical to the state of our a11y
efforts. (maybe once per week or so)
Great!
Post by chrys
1. I have an KDE developer account know!! YAY :). But i promise to not
do anything with it until my mentor federik allow me to do so. I want to
do the a11y development for a longer time and wont stop tomorrow doing
that (for personal reasons). I swear :)!!!!111
Congrats.
Post by chrys
2. I polished some stuff on my patch to fix the tab-bar of "dash"
starting menu to make the fix more logical (thanks to federik for any
suggestions)
3. I learned: most of the issues are not mostly related to missing a11y
labels like it was for the desktop(this is easy to patch), but the focus
and keyboard navigation needs most of work.
4. we need some general implementation guidelines for keyboard
https://phabricator.kde.org/T9878#165110
we need some public discussion here. not sure where is the right place.
5. we have some ongoing discussion about the most important part; the
task switcher. Thanks to all here!
6. i also did not idle: i have the first, "one and only" inital
accessible version of kickoff (the default start menu) on my computer!!
it is still not free on bugs, and federik would kill me if i would
send this as final solution, but it works!
BUT it also means that i figured what to do. i will fix the bugs, clean
the patch (code) up and send it in.
Priority: is still the task switcher (as most important task) and the
start menus.
1. i need some native english speaker to support me with the wiki
2. i don't own an blog (yea i don't lol). is there someone out there
what want to blog for me to spread the information to the planet.kde.org
and the world? a11y needs more attention, for our KDE reasons... yea...
but overall YES!
Regarding a blog I think it's best if you ask kde-sysadmins for a blog on
blogs.kde.org and then add yourself to the planet.kde.org list. If you need
some help with that don't hesitate to ping me on IRC (unormal).
Post by chrys
so let me know if you want to help out here! plz don't let me hang on
alone! i bet on you!
https://phabricator.kde.org/T9878#165110
yea would be definitive good. mumble? IRC? what native speaker are you
:)? when do you have time to give a talk to me? I can not wait to meet
you. special thanks from my side for your help!
from my side: i m from Germany, so i speak german best. you can find me
on (IRC) irc.linux-a11y.org (mostly 24/7). I have 4 days off now. so i
will be mostly flexible here (not on Friday).
Thanks!
cheers chrys
Best regards
Mario
Frederik Gladhorn
2018-11-02 13:35:23 UTC
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Great initiative!

My update for the week:
Thanks to your asking I have started writing code for KWin which is special,
so the task switcher will hopefully get there.

I'll write to Chrys in private about having a call finally.

Cheers,
Frederik
Post by chrys
Howdy List,
Yes :) i did not give up yet and do not give up in near future. So don't
worry here :)!!!111
I made myself a task to inform you periodical to the state of our a11y
efforts. (maybe once per week or so)
1. I have an KDE developer account know!! YAY :). But i promise to not
do anything with it until my mentor federik allow me to do so. I want to
do the a11y development for a longer time and wont stop tomorrow doing
that (for personal reasons). I swear :)!!!!111
2. I polished some stuff on my patch to fix the tab-bar of "dash"
starting menu to make the fix more logical (thanks to federik for any
suggestions)
3. I learned: most of the issues are not mostly related to missing a11y
labels like it was for the desktop(this is easy to patch), but the focus
and keyboard navigation needs most of work.
4. we need some general implementation guidelines for keyboard
https://phabricator.kde.org/T9878#165110
we need some public discussion here. not sure where is the right place.
5. we have some ongoing discussion about the most important part; the
task switcher. Thanks to all here!
6. i also did not idle: i have the first, "one and only" inital
accessible version of kickoff (the default start menu) on my computer!!
it is still not free on bugs, and federik would kill me ;) if i would
send this as final solution, but it works!
BUT it also means that i figured what to do. i will fix the bugs, clean
the patch (code) up and send it in.
Priority: is still the task switcher (as most important task) and the
start menus.
1. i need some native english speaker :) to support me with the wiki
2. i don't own an blog (yea i don't lol). is there someone out there
what want to blog for me to spread the information to the planet.kde.org
and the world? a11y needs more attention, for our KDE reasons... yea...
but overall YES!
so let me know if you want to help out here! plz :) don't let me hang on
alone! i bet on you!
https://phabricator.kde.org/T9878#165110
yea would be definitive good. mumble? IRC? what native speaker are you
:)? when do you have time to give a talk to me? I can not wait to meet
you. special thanks from my side for your help!
from my side: i m from Germany, so i speak german best. you can find me
on (IRC) irc.linux-a11y.org (mostly 24/7). I have 4 days off now. so i
will be mostly flexible here (not on Friday).
Thanks!
cheers chrys
chrys
2018-11-02 22:13:43 UTC
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Howdy,
Post by Frederik Gladhorn
Thanks to your asking I have started writing code for KWin which is special,
so the task switcher will hopefully get there.
oww, this is damn awsome! This is one of the biggest showstoppers :).
thanks man!
Post by Frederik Gladhorn
Great initiative!
Thanks to your asking I have started writing code for KWin which is special,
so the task switcher will hopefully get there.
I'll write to Chrys in private about having a call finally.
Cheers,
Frederik
Post by chrys
Howdy List,
Yes :) i did not give up yet and do not give up in near future. So don't
worry here :)!!!111
I made myself a task to inform you periodical to the state of our a11y
efforts. (maybe once per week or so)
1. I have an KDE developer account know!! YAY :). But i promise to not
do anything with it until my mentor federik allow me to do so. I want to
do the a11y development for a longer time and wont stop tomorrow doing
that (for personal reasons). I swear :)!!!!111
2. I polished some stuff on my patch to fix the tab-bar of "dash"
starting menu to make the fix more logical (thanks to federik for any
suggestions)
3. I learned: most of the issues are not mostly related to missing a11y
labels like it was for the desktop(this is easy to patch), but the focus
and keyboard navigation needs most of work.
4. we need some general implementation guidelines for keyboard
https://phabricator.kde.org/T9878#165110
we need some public discussion here. not sure where is the right place.
5. we have some ongoing discussion about the most important part; the
task switcher. Thanks to all here!
6. i also did not idle: i have the first, "one and only" inital
accessible version of kickoff (the default start menu) on my computer!!
it is still not free on bugs, and federik would kill me ;) if i would
send this as final solution, but it works!
BUT it also means that i figured what to do. i will fix the bugs, clean
the patch (code) up and send it in.
Priority: is still the task switcher (as most important task) and the
start menus.
1. i need some native english speaker :) to support me with the wiki
2. i don't own an blog (yea i don't lol). is there someone out there
what want to blog for me to spread the information to the planet.kde.org
and the world? a11y needs more attention, for our KDE reasons... yea...
but overall YES!
so let me know if you want to help out here! plz :) don't let me hang on
alone! i bet on you!
https://phabricator.kde.org/T9878#165110
yea would be definitive good. mumble? IRC? what native speaker are you
:)? when do you have time to give a talk to me? I can not wait to meet
you. special thanks from my side for your help!
from my side: i m from Germany, so i speak german best. you can find me
on (IRC) irc.linux-a11y.org (mostly 24/7). I have 4 days off now. so i
will be mostly flexible here (not on Friday).
Thanks!
cheers chrys
Frederik Gladhorn
2018-11-05 17:36:33 UTC
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Quick update on KWin.
There are only two small changes needed in the end.
https://phabricator.kde.org/D16664
https://phabricator.kde.org/D16638

As soon as they make their way in, we'll have KWin announcing the window that
is going to be activated when pressing tab while holding the alt key.

Cheers,
Frederik
chrys
2018-11-05 20:21:06 UTC
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Howdy Federik, howdy list,

This is incredible awesome and exciting!!! We near an state for plasma
what is initially usable for blind people!
after finalizing my main menu stuff (what i hopefully will be able to do
this week after the last busy week). we have all very basic stuff in
place and can ask for first testers to try out KDE plasma.
I asked my friends from F123; they will do some advertising for our
stuff on there blog and will take a look at our work as soon its usable.

if all that stuff lands i will be able to install plasma on my
girlfriends laptop :). since i can jump in if issues are happening. but
she is a good tester ;).

really fun to see the fast progress here and the result is already amazing.

cheers chrys
Post by Frederik Gladhorn
Quick update on KWin.
There are only two small changes needed in the end.
https://phabricator.kde.org/D16664
https://phabricator.kde.org/D16638
As soon as they make their way in, we'll have KWin announcing the window that
is going to be activated when pressing tab while holding the alt key.
Cheers,
Frederik
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